Back with Dave Blundin for Round 2, going deeper into what enterprise AI looks like once you actually ship it. We talked through the just-launched Vestmark Center for AI Research & Development (CARD) in Boston’s Seaport, the first rack of Mac Minis now running agents as digital employees, and why running through AWS Bedrock instead of the consumer Claude.ai interface opens up an entirely different set of options.

From there we got into why macOS makes agents dramatically more capable than their cloud-hosted counterparts, why Gemma 12B and other small fine-tuned models will absorb huge chunks of the AI workload, and how management shifts from using AI as an assistant to orchestrating a fleet of agents. We also covered Opus 4.8’s honesty update, why Vercel’s Zero language didn’t quite land, and why unemployment isn’t actually coming to financial services, with the productivity numbers at Vestmark to back it up.

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